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  • Hi, I am looking for information about the peace memorial which is at the intersection of Route 1 and Annapolis Road which is in Bladensburg, MD. I have already accumalated some stuff about it, but just need a little more documentated information to complete my research project. I don't need any more general information about it. However what I need is a resources of places I can go to get more indepth information about the monument. I know this sounds kind of weird but I do hope you know what I mean.


  • Dam it all, I just was writing you a very long e-mail and I some how lost it. Anyway to the point I have tired all of the three different idea's you have given me, without much success. When I lost my message to you I was saying the following After you wrote the most recent e-mail I began to think to myself what is the point for this research. What am I trying to get out of it. Well, I guess I would answer by saying. "I really don't know." I think that I am looking for a page or two worth of written information about the monument but maybe it just isn't out there. Do you kind of know what I am talking about ? What do you think. Maybe I should just get something more like the published paper, which you talked about in item # 2 (if I can get it) and end it there. What do you think about that. Maybe my goal isn't realistic. Can you give me any advise ? Thank you your continued help. Stephen


  • Thank you very much for the information that everyone provided me.


  • stephenh-ga, We live to serve! Originally, you were looking for sources of information where you could do further research (which I trust I provided). Have you contacted the sources I gave you? And were they able to provide you additional information? I'm asking because, in order to provide you more information than you already have, I have to know what you have. What is your baseline, so to speak. Let me know how things worked out with the three sources I provided, and we'll take it from there. Cheers, paf


  • For the question about the historical Society: I had been in conversation with the historian for about a month before I thought about going out and see what they had to offer. She told me that she had a lot of information and a trip out to the PGCHS would be worth the effect. So with that I decided to go out to the historical society. You must understand that the historical society is located in Upper New Carrolton and is only open 4 hours a week, Sat (12-4pm) You must also understand that I don't have a car and my ownly way out there is by public transportation. So on 6/26 I went out to New Carrolton and caught a $15.00 cab ride to the PGCHS. When I got out there the stuff which she showed me was much less than I expected. The stuff she had, she could have, easily mailed to me without any problem. Although the historian was very nice her assitants were very rude and very unknowledgeable about the information which they had in the library. I thought they were very rude to me and couldn't wait to get me out of the library. I kind of thought the 2 hours round trip I made from Bethesda was to New Carrolton was useless. For the unpublished paper: I spent a good half of last week writing over a dozens organizations about trying to get the unpublished paper. Most of everyone gave me a contact of somone else or somewhere else to write or call too. All I followed up with, without any success. At this point I was getting very discouraged. The town of Bladensburg, town hall: The town of Bladensburg knew that it existed and they did have some stuff that they sent me but it was more of a general nature to the town history not on the monmunet itself. Not very good if you ask me. So you see that I am kind of very discouraged with this. I feel that I running around the brush without getting what I want. Maybe the information I am looking for is just not out there. What do you think, what can you offer to do to help me with this issue Once again I will state what I want: It is about 2 pages worth of information about the Peace memorial. thank you again stephen-ga


  • I am sorry that I didn't get back to you on this issue sooner. I have had very little luck in getting any addition information about this monument. I have spent a great amout of time on this subject and kind of feel disappointed that I haven't found anything else. I have come to the concluison that it might be better if I just let "this sit" for awhile. What do you think. Do you think, that is a good idea ? Maybe a bad idea ? Please advise me. Another thought ! Would you be willing to continue to research this out for me ? I don't know if you are allow to do this, but maybe you can idenfity me somehow and we can work off this board if you want too. Is this possible ? If not, no problem that is fine.. I just thought I would ask ? I don't want to get either one of us in trouble with answers.google.com If you know what I mean.


  • stephenh, In researching this, I came across a few postings in a discussion forum on Prince Georges County history asking about the memorial. The postings were initiated by one Stephen H____, which I presume is you. Have you checked these postings? Do you need information beyond what is offered in the response to your post?


  • Hello stephenh-ga, Here are three potential resources that I beleive will provide significant additional information on the Peace Cross memorial. 1. First, check back to your old posting that I mentioned above, as you have a willing PG county historian offering to help: http://members4.boardhost.com/pghistory/msg/324.html We have a file on the Peace Cross. Let us know by e-mail whether you would like to come in to look at it, either at the Historical Society library, or at my office in Upper Marlboro. 2. Second, there is an unpublished paper on the Peace Cross that was prepared for PG County's tricentennial: http://www.pghistory.org/PG/PG300/sites.html Peace Cross. Bladensburg, MD: [Unpublished paper]. Available at the FDML... The FDML in question is the Fred DeMarr Library [FDML], Marietta Mansion, Bell Station Road, Glenn Dale, MD 20769, 301-464-4590. [Open Saturdays 12:00 - 4:00 p.m. Nothing circulates.] 3. And last (and possibly least, though I wanted to mention it just the same), you can check in with the Town of Bladensburg, who is listed as the point of contact for information on the Peace Cross at the site mentioned by markj-ga in his comment, below: http://www.goprincegeorgescounty.com/subsites/visitors/att_hist.htm#memorialpeace The phone number in question belongs to the Town of Bladensburg, as you can see from this website which, coincidentally, features a picture of the Peace Cross: http://www.mdmunicipal.org/cities/index.cfm?townname=Bladensburg&page=officials Note that there are email addresses at the site as well, with which you can contact town administrators. You can also read a bit about the history of the Peace Cross here (though I imagine you've seen it already): http://www.bladensburg.com/history.html I beleive these will do the trick for you, but if for any reason you run into dead ends, just let me know and I'll continue looking for source material for you. All the best in your DC-area quests... pafalafa-ga search strategy: Google searches on: [bladensburg map ] used to locate the memorial on the map and find its proper name ["peace cross" bladensburg] [301-927-7048]


  • Stephen, Please, please, PLEEEEEASE, tell me what has happened. Did you telephone all three sources I gave you? If so, what did they have to say? Is the unpublished paper lost? Unavailable? No one knows about it? Were they polite? Rude? I can only try to help you out if I know what has happened thus far....so please let me know. And as for contacting one another outside of Google Answers....I'm afraid that's strictly verbotten! paf


  • Thanks for the kind remarks, Stephen. We're all looking forward to your next historical site search. paf


  • I know that this may sound stupid and dum but I am still not satified with the amount of information I have about the peace memorial for some reason. I am sorry about this. Can someone do a little more research for me to find me something else. I am willing to raise the research amount if someone can find me some more information on this subject. So what do I still want, well I really don't know. Maybe another written page worth of information about the monument.


  • Stephen, Ouch! It's hard to read about promising resources that don't pan out...especially when accompanied by a bad attitude on the part of those who should be helping. I've done some more searching, and found a few more resources, largely by avoiding use of the search term "Peace Cross". Apparently, this is its modern name, but was not commonly used during the days of its creation. I've also found what is quite possibly the only use of the word "Countians" in the entire English corpus! Herewith, some added info, all from the archives of the Washington Post, and all from 1919, which was apparently an important year of activities regarding the memorial: ========== Washington Post August 7, 1919 Lawn Fete For Memorial Bladensburg Citizens Will Raise Fund for War Cross To raise funds for the memorial cross to 54 men of Prince Georges county, Md., who gave their lives during the war, citizens of Bladensburg, Md., have completed plans for the lawn fete Saturday night... ...the cross is to be put up at the intersection of the Bladensburg-Annaplois and Washington Baltimore boulevards. John R. Riggles, in charge of the collection of the fund, states that a lawn fete at Decatur Heights raised more than $200... ========== August 18, 1919 WOUNDED YANKS SUBSCRIBE Walter Reed Patients Help Prince Georges Memorial Fund Funds for the memorial cross at Bladensburg to honor Prince Georges county men who died in the war are being rapidly collected and work on the monument will be started next month, according to John Riggles, of Hyattsville, chairman of a committee for the memorial... ...Wounded Yanks at Walter Reed Hospital have sent numerous donations and letters of sympathy for the mothers and other bereaved relatives of Prince Georges county soldiers. Many of the wounded Yanks have subscribed all their funds. Private Lewis Guirette, of Louisiana, who lost a let and an arm, was one of the contributors... ========== August 9, 1919 GIFT FROM MISS WILSON To Be sold at Bladensburg Lawn Parth for War Memorial A lawn party to raise funds for the memorial to be erected in honor of the soldiers of Prince Georges county who lost their lives in the war will be given tonight in front of the schoolhouse at Bladensburg, Md...A gift from Miss Margaret Wilson will be sold at auction. A 26-piece band will furnish the music... ========== June 8, 1919 HIGHWAY TO BE MEMORIAL The National Defense Highway, between Bladensburg and Annaplois, will be dedicated byut the citizens of Prince Georges county, Md., to the memory of the dead soldiers, sailors and marines. A calvary cross, 20 feet high, will be erected at Bladensburg and the names of the county heroes will be inscribed on a bronze tablet... It is planned to have the dedication exercises within the next few weeks. Gov. Harrington will spread the first concrete. Mrs. Edgar Brown is in charge of the committee on arrangements. Secretary of War Baker, Secretary of the Navy Daniles, members of Congress and other prominetn men will be invited to attend... ========== July 11, 1919 SACRIFICE CROSS FOR SOLDIER Prince Georges Countians Plan Seaplane Flight to Aid Fund A naval searplane flight from Washington to Chesapeake Beach may be a feature of Prince Georges county memorial day...Arrangements for the flight now are being made with the Navy Department. It is proposed that the plane shall carry messages from Secretary Baker and Daniels...regarding the erection of the big sacrifice cross at Bladensburg...The excursion is for the benefit of the fund to erect the cross... ========== Hope this helps. pafalafa-ga


  • Yes, the monument which I am talking about is the "Memorial Peace Cross". A visitor to Bladensburg, MD can't miss it as it is in the center of the cross road of Route 1 and Annopolis Road. It is also exactly located across the road from the Bladensburg, Maryland Waterfront Park. Markj-ga. Yes, that is me I am Stephen H_______. My name is spread around to many different chat boards on the internet as I have been looking for this answer for quite some time now. Anyone that is still willing to help me find my answer, I am basically looking for somewhere I can go to get more written information on the monument.


  • BINGO!!!! Hit the motherlode. Turns out there's another newspaper article (Washington Post, again) that pretty much is what you're looking for -- a 1-2 page summary of the creation of the memorial. I've included excerpts below, and a librarian should be able to help you obtain the full article, which I highly recommend you get a copy of. Cheers, paf ========== Washington Post July 13, 1925 LEGION DEDICATES BLADENSBURG WAR MEMORIAL CROSS Representative Gambrill Asks Former Soldiers to Outlaw War Mrs. Bradley Snyder Unveils Monument Memorial is Work of John D. Early; Parade Precedes Ceremony ---------- That future generations passing through Bladensburg, Md., may be reminded of the 49 young men of Prince Georges county who made the supreme sacrifice in the world war, an unadorned cross 40 feet high at the fork of the Baltimore pike and the Annapolis memorial highway was dedicated yesterday afternoon. Ceremonies were held under the auspices of the Snyder-Farmer post American Legion of Bladensburg which is composed of the survivors of the Fourth Maryland regiment. ...That war be forever outlawed was the keynote appeal of Representative Stephen W. Gambrill of...Maryland..."You men of Prince Georges county fought for the sacred right of all to live in peace and security and by the token of this cross, symbolic of Calvary, let us keep fresh the memory..." ...the cross was unveiled by Mrs. Bradley A. Snyder...assisted by John H. Hiser, commander of the local legion post. ...at the base of the monument...a bronze tablet 8 by 2 1/2 feet on which are inscribed the names of the 49 soldiers... ...at the bottom of the tablet...a quotation from President Woodrow Wilson... ...On the four sides...are the words "Valor", "Endurance", "Courage", "Devotion"... ...It was constructed at a cost of $10,000 by John D. Early...


  • Tell you what. Take a look at the full article I found, as I really think it will be what you're looking for. But if you're still yearning for additional info, then give the Legion Post a call. If you come up empty-handed, then let me know...I know there are additional articles to be found in the Washington Post, but unfortunately, each one that I retrieve costs me money, so there is a limit as to what I can provide. paf


  • Thanks for responsing back to me. The official name I believe is the Peace Memorial. I don't know of any other name that it might go by. I believe I have provided you (in my earlier e-mail message) everything that I know about the memorial. As I said before, I am looking for somewhere I can write to, to get written information about it. If you could provide me some accurate resources to get some addition information you"ll get "5 star" and a bonus. For your information, I have already asked the Prince Georges County Library, the Prince Georges County history Society, the maryland military monument commission and the U of maryland. All which had little to nothing on the subject. Thank you Stephen


  • Thank you very much pafalafa, I won't know if this is the exact thing I want until I can get a copy of the article in my hands. But it probably is the thing that I am looking for. One more thing, I thought for some reason that maybe the American Legion Post in Bladensburg, MD might have something on the monument. I know that it has been a very long time since it was dedicated but I thought this might be a good chance since they were the one's who dedicated it. What do you think, do you think this is possible ? Anyhow thank you for the very hard work you have done on this so far for me. Stephenh-ga


  • Stephen, I'm not sure where to go with this at this point...it wasn't clear from your comments whether you've contacted the sources I found for you, and if so, whether they were helpful in steering you towards additional information. In particular, it seems the unpublished paper on the Peace Cross from the Tricentennial is what would best serve your needs. Have you had any success in gaining access to this? I did think of one other source of information that might be of use. The Maryland State Archives maintains a very helpful site (cumbersome...but helpful just the same) that can be searched at: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/homepage/html/search.html I searched through several options for information on the Peace Cross, and came across this one item: ========== http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/000579/html/am579--937.html AN ACT to request the State Roads Commission to investi- gate the ownership and possessory rights of the property at the junction of the Defense Highway and Baltimore Boulevard in Bladensburg and if there is outstanding ownership or right of possession in any one to any part of said tract, to authorize and direct said Commission to acquire the same and to direct the Board of Public Works to transfer a sufficient sum to said Commission for payment of same. WHEREAS, a controversy has arisen over the ownership and use of a small tract of land surrounding the Peace Cross at the junction of the Defense Highway and the Baltimore Boulevard in Bladensburg, Maryland, and the use of said land for commercial purposes will create a seri- ous menace to traffic at this point; and WHEREAS, The State Roads Commission is deeply con- cerned about the traffic hazard situation at this junction; therefore SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland, That the State Roads Commission is authorized and directed to investigate the ownership and possessory rights of the so-called Casey Tract surrounding the said Peace Cross at the junction of the Defense Highway and the Baltimore Boulevard in Bladensburg, and if the said Commission determines that there is an outstanding own- ership or right of possession to any part of said tract, it is authorized and directed to proceed forthwith to acquire the same by purchase or condemnation. ========== Somewhere in the bowels of the Archives, there is probably a file on this controversy, which may be part of the story you are looking for. All the best, pafalafa-ga


  • Did you get my last e-mail that I sent to you on answers.google, pafalafa ? To cover all my basic possibilties would it be possible for you to look for a couple more articles for me. I know that it probably will cost you money but I really would appreciate it if you could do it for me. This Sat, I plan on going to the library to print out all the articles which you have found for me. I think that is going to be cheaper for me than using the on-line service which is much more expensive. One more thing, since I have already "said how great you are" can I still post a tip for you or did that have to be done when I "said how great you were" I'm not sure about this so I am going to ask, from all the wonderful posting you did for me would you in this situation get the money and tip or would tutuzdad-ga get the money and tip because he responsed first to me. :) :) Again, thank you for your great resources and help. You are very good researcher


  • Stephen, LAST ONE! I can't keep digging these up for the reasons I laid out in my last note. However, I do want to assist you as best I can, so here's one more article I found, By the way, I have mentioned to you before -- and will say it again -- that given your interest in the DC area, you should, without any doubt, subscribe to the Washignton Post archives service, so that you can access these articles yourself. As for your question about tipping -- that option is now closed for this current question (you can tip at the same time you rate an answer, but not afterwards). Don't worry about it though -- I've enjoyed just working on the question, and sometimes that's reward enough. pafalafa-ga ========== Washington Post May 31, 1929 WAR DEAD HONORED BY PRINCE GEORGES Principal Exercise Held at Bladensburg Memorial Peace Cross Schools in Brief Session ---------- Prince Georges County honored its hero dead yesterday with memorial exercises at the various cemeteries and schools of the county. The principal exercises were help at the Bladesnburg war memorial peace cross under the auspices of the Snyder-Farmer Post, American Legion. [the rest of the article goes on to detail many of the people and organizations involved, including:] --Prof. Charles S. Richardson, Univ of Md, was the prinicpal speaker --other speakers: Harold C. Smith, commander of the department (the article is unclear on which department!); Miss Marion B. Snyder; Dr. Robert W. McCullough, commander of the Snyder-Farm Post. --Mrs. Bradley Snyder, mother of one of the slain soldiers, laid a wreath at the monument. --a parade was held, which included Company F, First Infantry of the Maryland National Guard; Legionairres; veterans, fire departments, local politicians, boy scoouts, and others. --C. W. Walzl, vice-commander of the Snyder-Farmer Post, chaired the committee in charge of the day's events. --Schools held patriotic exercises in the morning, then were dismissed early.


  • I believe you are referring to the "Monument Peace Cross," sometimes called the "Peace Cross." Have you tried calling the phone number on this listing (301-927-7048)? : http://www.goprincegeorgescounty.com/subsites/visitors/att_hist.htm#memorialpeace


  • There are a lot of memorials in that area. I didn't find anything related specifically to a "Peace Memorial". You might inquire as to it's official name if this is not it, or perhaps some other significant details related to it that would distinguish it from other memorials. tutuzdad-ga


  • Dear Pafalafa-ga Ok, I really don't think that I am going to know if this is "the article" I am looking for with enough information, until I see the entire article myself with full text. I think my next step is to call my local library and get the full article myself. If I had to bet, I bet that this will be more than enough information. Unless you really want to, you don't need to spend any more of your money retrieving articles for me on this subject because I think I might have enough. You really have done a lot for me and I "really" do appreciate it, alot. Thank you Stephenh-ga


  • What is the official name of the memorial and what do you already know about it that we should disregard? tutuzdad-ga







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